Ryan Sanders didn’t exit because the business was broken—he left because he was ready.

After building one of Aotearoa’s most iconic tourism brands, he walked away on his own terms, in the middle of a pandemic.

In this episode, we unpack the emotional terrain of stepping back while the business is still thriving, the quiet toll of staying too long, and the unspoken identity crisis that comes with no longer being “the founder.”

Whether you’re thinking about selling or just asking yourself what comes next, this is the conversation you didn’t know you needed.

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