Steph (the artist) and James (the writer) catch up on where they're at with their skin maps and Another Sunderland.

After a productive month, Steph chats about the danger of shiny new banana skins. James explores how he fell back in love with his work in progress by reconnecting with his original inspiration.

Season 1 of Creative Catch-up was produced as part of a Sunderland Culture Creative Development Fellowship.