Steph (the artist) and James (the writer) chat about 'on-ramping' - the stuff we do to get our best selves from bed to desk in the morning.

James loves positive habit-stacking, while Steph is all about managing her work space. They also explore what to do when the wheels get wobbly, and set you an on-ramping challenge.

Season 1 of Creative Catch-up was produced as part of a Sunderland Culture Creative Development Fellowship.