Is there an upside to Hansonism? In this episode, we try to figure out what One Nation actually has to offer. We also talk about fear and how some Americans are dealing with the Trump era by turning to fantasy literature. Is this just escapism?

Hosted by Fatima Measham and Jim McDermott.

Music: Aces High by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)licensed under CCBYA 3.0.