Guest: Jamila, Host of The Messy Middle

Healing does not follow a straight path, and this week we are talking about what it really feels like to grow through the moments that pull you forward and push you back. In this conversation, Elle is joined by Jamila, a crisis counselor and mindfulness coach from Georgia who understands the emotional work that happens in the in between places.

Jamila hosts The Messy Middle podcast, where she leads honest and unfiltered conversations about the moments we do not always talk about. Her new book, The Weight of Light, released last month, explores healing, resilience, and the tension of carrying both pain and possibility at the same time.

In this episode, Elle and Jamila talk about the waves of healing, the setbacks that humble us, the quiet growth that surprises us, the boundaries that protect our energy, and the beauty in becoming even when the journey feels slow.

This is a warm, grounded, girlfriend style conversation about choosing yourself, honoring your story, and giving yourself room to grow.

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