Listeners to Five Live's Fighting Talk will know each episode ends with the two highest scorers defending a controversial or unpopular opinion in order to win the episode.

So, in that vain: Martin Kelner knows nothing about radio and deserved to be paid less than a horse.

Of course he knows nothing about radio. He's only spent the best part of half a century in the industry. Radio 2? Radio Who more like! So what if he introduced Caroline Aherne and Jake Yapp to us? Victoria Wood was absolutely right to walk out on his interview with her. And Edouard Lapaglie has carried him for years!

Actually, that might be a Defend the Indefensible too far.

Martin is, as Foxy puts it, radio royalty. So we insist you be upstanding while listening to this episode.

There's strong language and we must warn you that this episode includes the funniest story ever told on this podcast, so spare undergarments may be required.

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Hear Extra Time with Martin Kelner on TalkSport, Friday and Saturday nights from 1am.

Martin's books 'Sit Down and Cheer - A history of sport on TV' and 'When Will I Be Famous - Travels through the dark side of show business' are available to buy now. And his new book, 'Screen Break', will be available in mid-2023 so keep an eye out for that.