In this episode, Mary interviews two of her passionate faculty from the School of Computing and Augmented Intelligence, Ryan Meuth and Phillip Miller. Ryan and Phill have a long history with CSE110, Principles of Programming, first redeveloping the course for our Universal Learner pathways, formerly known as Earned Admissions, and we get a little nostalgic when we bring in Jill Roter to briefly fawn over Phill and Ryan and talk about the impact this course makes in all of ASU's Teaching & Learning realms.