It’s the penultimate episode of the season, and things are starting to come full circle.

Mark and Ben talk through the build-up to Ben reaching one year off codeine, reflecting on where their journeys first began to overlap and how that connection has shaped everything since. Ben also brings in a piece of audio he’s chosen himself, which takes the conversation in a direction Mark wasn’t expecting.

They’re then joined by Abby, who returns to the podcast after previously sharing her recovery from codeine. This time, she opens up further about other substances she struggled with, and where life is heading now both personally and within the recovery and social media space.

An honest check-in, a few surprises, and a look at what comes next as the season draws to a close.

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