Only Way To Fail

S02E09 - People - The Most Important Part of EOS™ (and What Makes a Perfect Co-Founder)


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This week Tyler becomes a “bobcat”, Garret is a “beat puppy”, and Darin and James are terrible managers and employees - making them perfect co-founders. All of that and the guys discuss the People component of EOS™ (Right People / Right Seats).

Show Notes 

00:00:00 - Pre Show

The world's most amazing turkey sandwich

  • “Icicles don’t have milk in them”

    00:02:45 - Show Start

    00:03:00 - Follow-Ups 

    Darin - Larry Walls three virtues of a programmer (this time all 3)

    Laziness

  • Hubris

  • Impatience

  • Listener Becca - Loving Darin’s “attempt” at tech headlines, could he switch headlines with Garret?

  • Darin’s recruiting lunch with Garret

    Expect to gain the Infoplus 20 lbs

  • Garret - Sandler Update

    Fulfillment and Post Sell (Closing the sale)

    Demo of the product

  • The Ultimate Upfront Contract

  • Darin’s parents discovered OWTF

    “Boy you guys sure are using a lot of business talk”

    00:11:10 - The Headlines

    Tyler

    Product L10™ - 3.5 Score this week

    Order Bulk Load speeds

    IDS had lots of talk-talk-talk

  • Little rough and needs to get better

  • New Website has launched for Infoplus

    James may have been backed into a corner and forced to launch it

    A case study on how NOT to do a project

  • Product is doing great

    Got a monkey back from James

  • Too many meetings - time to cut back

    More bobcat work than bulldozing required

  • Real time follow up from James

    Shifting from Google to duckduckgo.com as search engine

    Don’t search for “bob cat”

  • Back to Tyler 

    Two new support hires starting next week

  • Darin

    Moment of crisis - Pain in his right hand

    Could this be an RSI (repetitive stress injury)

  • Kicked off final Strategic Product Sprint

    Two weeks out from quarterly release

  • Q from Garret - Do you feel more prepared having a quarter to plan a release

    “Uh. That’s a great idea Garret (note to self, plan the release)”

  • Identified some sins through the first strategic epic to change next time

    Don’t carry over stories

  • Better upfront planning

  • Starting to think about next quarters epic

  • Tech note of the week - AKA Listener Becca’s favorite part of Darin’s headlines

    New caching servers

  • Garret

    LT L10™ - 4.0 Score

    “Fun” sales IDS

    Tried my best not to personalize that discussion

  • Don’t carry that weight yourself

  • 3PL Sales L10™ - 4.75 Score

    Team has really come together and embraced the TEAM mentality

  • Retail Sales L10™ - 3.8 Score

    Team still slow to embrace the TEAM identify

  • Decent IDS® issues and solutions

    Clarifying roles

  • Started L10s™ for the both teams with a conversation around every person being involved in every part of the team

    Maybe a little too harsh in the delivery of that message

  • James

    People

    Garret looked like a “beat puppy” in that L10 this week talking about sales

  • Talking about performance issues on the podcast when people aren’t present

    Shared it to provide context around an already resolved issue

  • If you’re scaling a company, many struggles are getting people to level up

  • Normalize people struggling, normalize failure, bring it to the light

  • Facilitator Ari’s actual title - Executive Director of People and Strategic Projects

  • Yes - I did tell Darin he’s a bad manager and employee

    That’s what makes him a great co-founder

  • Returning Monkeys

    Gave Tyler his Support monkey back

  • D*mn it - Scorecards

    What you don’t measure and respect will fail, every time

  • Quad 3.4, maybe 5 for Garret

    Sales Management

  • James as a new employee Mentor

    Full body NO

  • MMLT Holdings giving away millions and millions of dollars?

    Welcome Tyler and Garret into the partnership

    01:04:49 - Topic 2 (1) Part 6 (but #1) of EOS™ - People

    Without the right people - the other 5 parts are impossible

    Right people equals alignment with core values

  • Gotta have a process to improve and ensure you keep your people healthy

  • Gotta have a process to help you part ways with people

  • No attrition of people is a huge red flag

  • 36 hours of pain is key to parting ways with employees

  • Garret’s likes

    Infoplus has a complete focus on it

    Constantly monitoring right people / right seats

  • Delegate and Elevate Process

    Absolutely loved the new process we use

  • Career Planning - everyone knows their path forward

  • Facilitator Ari as Executive Director of People

  • Garret’s Dislikes

    Our lack of consistency around it

    Doing it differently, not doing it at all

  • Tyler’s Likes

    Finding and Hiring the right people

    Putting a lot of focus and effort in our hiring process

  • Keeping the right people in the right seats

  • Career plans - knock it out and here’s your title and pay

  • One on Ones - Managers shut up and listen

  • Tyler’s Dislikes

    People Processes not up to the “bar”

  • LMA - Giving each employee a number, setting clear expectations

  • Darin’s Take - Who better to finish the discussion on people

    A small group of great people can accomplish great things

  • Bombshell Insight: Finding great “A” players is key

  • “I like computers, I don’t like people”

  • James somehow cares about everyone around him being great and excelling

    01:16:28 - Questions and Long Answers 

    N/A This Week

    01:27:51 - End of Show - brought to you by Darin

    I won’t talk about Garret’s show notes (that you can find on onlywaytofail.com)

    The Credits

    Hosts, Garret Richardson, Tyler Samples, Darin Kelkhoff, and James Maes

  • Show Notes by Garret Richardson

  • Proofing and Title by Darin Kelkhoff

  • Editing, Mixing, and Mastering by Brenton Wainscott

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