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This week Tyler becomes a “bobcat”, Garret is a “beat puppy”, and Darin and James are terrible managers and employees - making them perfect co-founders. All of that and the guys discuss the People component of EOS™ (Right People / Right Seats).
00:00:00 - Pre Show
The world's most amazing turkey sandwich
“Icicles don’t have milk in them”
00:02:45 - Show Start
00:03:00 - Follow-Ups
Darin - Larry Walls three virtues of a programmer (this time all 3)
Laziness
Hubris
Impatience
Listener Becca - Loving Darin’s “attempt” at tech headlines, could he switch headlines with Garret?
Darin’s recruiting lunch with Garret
Expect to gain the Infoplus 20 lbs
Garret - Sandler Update
Fulfillment and Post Sell (Closing the sale)
Demo of the product
The Ultimate Upfront Contract
Darin’s parents discovered OWTF
“Boy you guys sure are using a lot of business talk”
00:11:10 - The Headlines
Tyler
Product L10™ - 3.5 Score this week
Order Bulk Load speeds
IDS had lots of talk-talk-talk
Little rough and needs to get better
New Website has launched for Infoplus
James may have been backed into a corner and forced to launch it
A case study on how NOT to do a project
Product is doing great
Got a monkey back from James
Too many meetings - time to cut back
More bobcat work than bulldozing required
Real time follow up from James
Shifting from Google to duckduckgo.com as search engine
Don’t search for “bob cat”
Back to Tyler
Two new support hires starting next week
Darin
Moment of crisis - Pain in his right hand
Could this be an RSI (repetitive stress injury)
Kicked off final Strategic Product Sprint
Two weeks out from quarterly release
Q from Garret - Do you feel more prepared having a quarter to plan a release
“Uh. That’s a great idea Garret (note to self, plan the release)”
Identified some sins through the first strategic epic to change next time
Don’t carry over stories
Better upfront planning
Starting to think about next quarters epic
Tech note of the week - AKA Listener Becca’s favorite part of Darin’s headlines
New caching servers
Garret
LT L10™ - 4.0 Score
“Fun” sales IDS
Tried my best not to personalize that discussion
Don’t carry that weight yourself
3PL Sales L10™ - 4.75 Score
Team has really come together and embraced the TEAM mentality
Retail Sales L10™ - 3.8 Score
Team still slow to embrace the TEAM identify
Decent IDS® issues and solutions
Clarifying roles
Started L10s™ for the both teams with a conversation around every person being involved in every part of the team
Maybe a little too harsh in the delivery of that message
James
People
Garret looked like a “beat puppy” in that L10 this week talking about sales
Talking about performance issues on the podcast when people aren’t present
Shared it to provide context around an already resolved issue
If you’re scaling a company, many struggles are getting people to level up
Normalize people struggling, normalize failure, bring it to the light
Facilitator Ari’s actual title - Executive Director of People and Strategic Projects
Yes - I did tell Darin he’s a bad manager and employee
That’s what makes him a great co-founder
Returning Monkeys
Gave Tyler his Support monkey back
D*mn it - Scorecards
What you don’t measure and respect will fail, every time
Quad 3.4, maybe 5 for Garret
Sales Management
James as a new employee Mentor
Full body NO
MMLT Holdings giving away millions and millions of dollars?
Welcome Tyler and Garret into the partnership
01:04:49 - Topic 2 (1) Part 6 (but #1) of EOS™ - People
Without the right people - the other 5 parts are impossible
Right people equals alignment with core values
Gotta have a process to improve and ensure you keep your people healthy
Gotta have a process to help you part ways with people
No attrition of people is a huge red flag
36 hours of pain is key to parting ways with employees
Garret’s likes
Infoplus has a complete focus on it
Constantly monitoring right people / right seats
Delegate and Elevate Process
Absolutely loved the new process we use
Career Planning - everyone knows their path forward
Facilitator Ari as Executive Director of People
Garret’s Dislikes
Our lack of consistency around it
Doing it differently, not doing it at all
Tyler’s Likes
Finding and Hiring the right people
Putting a lot of focus and effort in our hiring process
Keeping the right people in the right seats
Career plans - knock it out and here’s your title and pay
One on Ones - Managers shut up and listen
Tyler’s Dislikes
People Processes not up to the “bar”
LMA - Giving each employee a number, setting clear expectations
Darin’s Take - Who better to finish the discussion on people
A small group of great people can accomplish great things
Bombshell Insight: Finding great “A” players is key
“I like computers, I don’t like people”
James somehow cares about everyone around him being great and excelling
01:16:28 - Questions and Long Answers
N/A This Week
01:27:51 - End of Show - brought to you by Darin
I won’t talk about Garret’s show notes (that you can find on onlywaytofail.com)
Hosts, Garret Richardson, Tyler Samples, Darin Kelkhoff, and James Maes
Show Notes by Garret Richardson
Proofing and Title by Darin Kelkhoff
Editing, Mixing, and Mastering by Brenton Wainscott
This week Tyler becomes a “bobcat”, Garret is a “beat puppy”, and Darin and James are terrible managers and employees - making them perfect co-founders. All of that and the guys discuss the People component of EOS™ (Right People / Right Seats).
00:00:00 - Pre Show
The world's most amazing turkey sandwich
“Icicles don’t have milk in them”
00:02:45 - Show Start
00:03:00 - Follow-Ups
Darin - Larry Walls three virtues of a programmer (this time all 3)
Laziness
Hubris
Impatience
Listener Becca - Loving Darin’s “attempt” at tech headlines, could he switch headlines with Garret?
Darin’s recruiting lunch with Garret
Expect to gain the Infoplus 20 lbs
Garret - Sandler Update
Fulfillment and Post Sell (Closing the sale)
Demo of the product
The Ultimate Upfront Contract
Darin’s parents discovered OWTF
“Boy you guys sure are using a lot of business talk”
00:11:10 - The Headlines
Tyler
Product L10™ - 3.5 Score this week
Order Bulk Load speeds
IDS had lots of talk-talk-talk
Little rough and needs to get better
New Website has launched for Infoplus
James may have been backed into a corner and forced to launch it
A case study on how NOT to do a project
Product is doing great
Got a monkey back from James
Too many meetings - time to cut back
More bobcat work than bulldozing required
Real time follow up from James
Shifting from Google to duckduckgo.com as search engine
Don’t search for “bob cat”
Back to Tyler
Two new support hires starting next week
Darin
Moment of crisis - Pain in his right hand
Could this be an RSI (repetitive stress injury)
Kicked off final Strategic Product Sprint
Two weeks out from quarterly release
Q from Garret - Do you feel more prepared having a quarter to plan a release
“Uh. That’s a great idea Garret (note to self, plan the release)”
Identified some sins through the first strategic epic to change next time
Don’t carry over stories
Better upfront planning
Starting to think about next quarters epic
Tech note of the week - AKA Listener Becca’s favorite part of Darin’s headlines
New caching servers
Garret
LT L10™ - 4.0 Score
“Fun” sales IDS
Tried my best not to personalize that discussion
Don’t carry that weight yourself
3PL Sales L10™ - 4.75 Score
Team has really come together and embraced the TEAM mentality
Retail Sales L10™ - 3.8 Score
Team still slow to embrace the TEAM identify
Decent IDS® issues and solutions
Clarifying roles
Started L10s™ for the both teams with a conversation around every person being involved in every part of the team
Maybe a little too harsh in the delivery of that message
James
People
Garret looked like a “beat puppy” in that L10 this week talking about sales
Talking about performance issues on the podcast when people aren’t present
Shared it to provide context around an already resolved issue
If you’re scaling a company, many struggles are getting people to level up
Normalize people struggling, normalize failure, bring it to the light
Facilitator Ari’s actual title - Executive Director of People and Strategic Projects
Yes - I did tell Darin he’s a bad manager and employee
That’s what makes him a great co-founder
Returning Monkeys
Gave Tyler his Support monkey back
D*mn it - Scorecards
What you don’t measure and respect will fail, every time
Quad 3.4, maybe 5 for Garret
Sales Management
James as a new employee Mentor
Full body NO
MMLT Holdings giving away millions and millions of dollars?
Welcome Tyler and Garret into the partnership
01:04:49 - Topic 2 (1) Part 6 (but #1) of EOS™ - People
Without the right people - the other 5 parts are impossible
Right people equals alignment with core values
Gotta have a process to improve and ensure you keep your people healthy
Gotta have a process to help you part ways with people
No attrition of people is a huge red flag
36 hours of pain is key to parting ways with employees
Garret’s likes
Infoplus has a complete focus on it
Constantly monitoring right people / right seats
Delegate and Elevate Process
Absolutely loved the new process we use
Career Planning - everyone knows their path forward
Facilitator Ari as Executive Director of People
Garret’s Dislikes
Our lack of consistency around it
Doing it differently, not doing it at all
Tyler’s Likes
Finding and Hiring the right people
Putting a lot of focus and effort in our hiring process
Keeping the right people in the right seats
Career plans - knock it out and here’s your title and pay
One on Ones - Managers shut up and listen
Tyler’s Dislikes
People Processes not up to the “bar”
LMA - Giving each employee a number, setting clear expectations
Darin’s Take - Who better to finish the discussion on people
A small group of great people can accomplish great things
Bombshell Insight: Finding great “A” players is key
“I like computers, I don’t like people”
James somehow cares about everyone around him being great and excelling
01:16:28 - Questions and Long Answers
N/A This Week
01:27:51 - End of Show - brought to you by Darin
I won’t talk about Garret’s show notes (that you can find on onlywaytofail.com)
Hosts, Garret Richardson, Tyler Samples, Darin Kelkhoff, and James Maes
Show Notes by Garret Richardson
Proofing and Title by Darin Kelkhoff
Editing, Mixing, and Mastering by Brenton Wainscott