Only Way To Fail

S02E12 - Discussing another 800 pound mammal in the room (and it’s not sales this time)


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Description 

This week Tyler confirms he has a beard, Garret goes through the worst exercise of his career, Darin hangs up on James, and James struggles with two aspects around leadership. All of that and the guys discuss a failed code release in a strategic product.

Show Notes

00:00:00 - Pre Show

Harmonizing and weird energy

  • Darin hangs up on James

    00:02:21 - Show Start

    Tyler is back!

  • Scaling...or not scaling

    00:02:39 - Follow-Ups (James saves the day)

    Tyler does have a beard

  • Garret - no new update for Sandler Sales (with an update on Sandler Sales)

    Main Sandler Foundations training complete

  • Continue on the mentorship and coaching calls

  • Follow up from Listener Becca: 

    Did Garret miss the week in 2nd grade we learned about bodies... (worth hearing the entier question verbatim) 

    Just completely caught off guard by his daughter’s question

  • Did anyone share the personal core values sheet with their wives?

    Short answer...No

  • But most of us will for next week's episode

  • Shenanigans that James doesn’t feel joy

    James gets external joy

  • Darin is internal joy...including food (when in his belly)

  • Listener Brandy 

    Completely agree with James on quad 4 or 5 when calling people

    James defines the 5th “quad” 

  • Garret and Darin, did either of you understand a single number James mentioned about espressos?

    00:13:59 - The Headlines

    Darin

    Strategic Product Release

    Release night when “OK” Thursday

  • Friday went terrible (errors coming from everywhere)

    Firefighting mode of emergency releases

  • Back to stable as of this episode

  • “Not needless to say, I have worn this poorly”

  • A week of emotional turmoil and self reflection

    Now questioning personal core value choices

  • Darin shares very real emotions around fractured relationship with James

  • James

    “It’s ok if we fail together. It’s not ok if we fail individually.”

    James recalls advice from Darin

  • Struggling as a leader with two big headlines

    “I’ve been angry and at the effect of”

  • What is the right mix between delegating and holding on to things?

  • Real time follow up from Darin

    How do you score yourselves for meetings with numbers like 9 and 6?

  • Tyler (cue mumbling transition)

    What a week to return to

  • People sharing their small wins has been important during a rough week

  • Product Team L10™ - scored a 3.4

    2 ToDo not done issues to IDS

  • Darin and Tyler rated the meeting as a 4 (even with IDS™ focused around “them”)

  • D&E™ Time

  • Came back from vacation...immediately picked up 6 prescriptions for the family

  • Garret

    LT L10™ - scored 3.17

    Tough IDS™ around FUD in sales

  • 3PL Sales L10™ - scored a 3.5

    Exploring should we shift this meeting away from late Monday afternoons

  • Retail Sales L10™ - scored a 4.2

    IDS around quality of leads for calls

  • 2 Adhoc D&E™ meetings both went great

  • Had the worst experience of my professional career

    00:44:17 - Topic 2 (1) - Another 800 pound mammal to discuss (Order Speed Release Failure)

    Where we are now

    No one is using the new code we’ve written

  • Errors are still popping up

  • Question we ask is “how can we roll this back if needed?”

    Never crossed our mind that can’t simply “roll” this one back

  • What does Darin see here?

    Insufficient testing

    We assumed automated test coverage was sufficient and complete

  • Manual testing can never be as broad a net as automated testing

  • Development and production environments are different

  • Too much of “just a Darin thing” owned in a vacuum

    “I’m a careless bumbling idiot”

  • Real time follow up - Darin, for a guy who doesn’t get joy from buying things, you sure spend a lot of money on puppy dogs.

  • “Processes, processes, processes”

    We have a process but we didn’t follow it

  • The one we have is nowhere near where it should be

  • Engineering doesn’t understand the power that we have and the responsibility

  • Question in Tyler’s head, “do we really want to change”?

    Quick to blame people, things, etc…

  • Any trust the company had left in engineering has been completely lost

    Maybe even trust in ourselves

  • “This is an opportunity to learn” puts James into a pure rage

    “If this was 1692 in Japan and I had a samurai sword, I’d cut everyone in half”

  • Path forward isn’t to regain trust in engineering

    Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...can’t get fooled again

  • “Fool me 19 times you lose the company”

  • “Can’t do the audit, and also be the bookkeeper”

    01:02:44 - Questions and Long Answers 

    N/A This Week

    01:02:44 - End of Show 

    Follow @onlywaytofail on Instagram to see Tyler’s “newly” bearded face

    01:08:50 -  After Show - Darin’s dog has a GPS collar

    Direct parallel -  Doggy GPS and current release issues

    The Credits

    Hosts, Garret Richardson, Tyler Samples, Darin Kelkhoff, and James Maes

  • Show Notes by Garret Richardson

  • Proofing and Title by Darin Kelkhoff

  • Editing, Mixing, and Mastering by Brenton Wainscott

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    Only Way To FailBy Garret Richardson, Tyler Samples, Darin Kelkhoff, James Maes