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This week Tyler confirms he has a beard, Garret goes through the worst exercise of his career, Darin hangs up on James, and James struggles with two aspects around leadership. All of that and the guys discuss a failed code release in a strategic product.
00:00:00 - Pre Show
Harmonizing and weird energy
Darin hangs up on James
00:02:21 - Show Start
Tyler is back!
Scaling...or not scaling
00:02:39 - Follow-Ups (James saves the day)
Tyler does have a beard
Garret - no new update for Sandler Sales (with an update on Sandler Sales)
Main Sandler Foundations training complete
Continue on the mentorship and coaching calls
Follow up from Listener Becca:
Did Garret miss the week in 2nd grade we learned about bodies... (worth hearing the entier question verbatim)
Just completely caught off guard by his daughter’s question
Did anyone share the personal core values sheet with their wives?
Short answer...No
But most of us will for next week's episode
Shenanigans that James doesn’t feel joy
James gets external joy
Darin is internal joy...including food (when in his belly)
Listener Brandy
Completely agree with James on quad 4 or 5 when calling people
James defines the 5th “quad”
Garret and Darin, did either of you understand a single number James mentioned about espressos?
00:13:59 - The Headlines
Darin
Strategic Product Release
Release night when “OK” Thursday
Friday went terrible (errors coming from everywhere)
Firefighting mode of emergency releases
Back to stable as of this episode
“Not needless to say, I have worn this poorly”
A week of emotional turmoil and self reflection
Now questioning personal core value choices
Darin shares very real emotions around fractured relationship with James
James
“It’s ok if we fail together. It’s not ok if we fail individually.”
James recalls advice from Darin
Struggling as a leader with two big headlines
“I’ve been angry and at the effect of”
What is the right mix between delegating and holding on to things?
Real time follow up from Darin
How do you score yourselves for meetings with numbers like 9 and 6?
Tyler (cue mumbling transition)
What a week to return to
People sharing their small wins has been important during a rough week
Product Team L10™ - scored a 3.4
2 ToDo not done issues to IDS
Darin and Tyler rated the meeting as a 4 (even with IDS™ focused around “them”)
D&E™ Time
Came back from vacation...immediately picked up 6 prescriptions for the family
Garret
LT L10™ - scored 3.17
Tough IDS™ around FUD in sales
3PL Sales L10™ - scored a 3.5
Exploring should we shift this meeting away from late Monday afternoons
Retail Sales L10™ - scored a 4.2
IDS around quality of leads for calls
2 Adhoc D&E™ meetings both went great
Had the worst experience of my professional career
00:44:17 - Topic 2 (1) - Another 800 pound mammal to discuss (Order Speed Release Failure)
Where we are now
No one is using the new code we’ve written
Errors are still popping up
Question we ask is “how can we roll this back if needed?”
Never crossed our mind that can’t simply “roll” this one back
What does Darin see here?
Insufficient testing
We assumed automated test coverage was sufficient and complete
Manual testing can never be as broad a net as automated testing
Development and production environments are different
Too much of “just a Darin thing” owned in a vacuum
“I’m a careless bumbling idiot”
Real time follow up - Darin, for a guy who doesn’t get joy from buying things, you sure spend a lot of money on puppy dogs.
“Processes, processes, processes”
We have a process but we didn’t follow it
The one we have is nowhere near where it should be
Engineering doesn’t understand the power that we have and the responsibility
Question in Tyler’s head, “do we really want to change”?
Quick to blame people, things, etc…
Any trust the company had left in engineering has been completely lost
Maybe even trust in ourselves
“This is an opportunity to learn” puts James into a pure rage
“If this was 1692 in Japan and I had a samurai sword, I’d cut everyone in half”
Path forward isn’t to regain trust in engineering
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...can’t get fooled again
“Fool me 19 times you lose the company”
“Can’t do the audit, and also be the bookkeeper”
01:02:44 - Questions and Long Answers
N/A This Week
01:02:44 - End of Show
Follow @onlywaytofail on Instagram to see Tyler’s “newly” bearded face
01:08:50 - After Show - Darin’s dog has a GPS collar
Direct parallel - Doggy GPS and current release issues
Hosts, Garret Richardson, Tyler Samples, Darin Kelkhoff, and James Maes
Show Notes by Garret Richardson
Proofing and Title by Darin Kelkhoff
Editing, Mixing, and Mastering by Brenton Wainscott
This week Tyler confirms he has a beard, Garret goes through the worst exercise of his career, Darin hangs up on James, and James struggles with two aspects around leadership. All of that and the guys discuss a failed code release in a strategic product.
00:00:00 - Pre Show
Harmonizing and weird energy
Darin hangs up on James
00:02:21 - Show Start
Tyler is back!
Scaling...or not scaling
00:02:39 - Follow-Ups (James saves the day)
Tyler does have a beard
Garret - no new update for Sandler Sales (with an update on Sandler Sales)
Main Sandler Foundations training complete
Continue on the mentorship and coaching calls
Follow up from Listener Becca:
Did Garret miss the week in 2nd grade we learned about bodies... (worth hearing the entier question verbatim)
Just completely caught off guard by his daughter’s question
Did anyone share the personal core values sheet with their wives?
Short answer...No
But most of us will for next week's episode
Shenanigans that James doesn’t feel joy
James gets external joy
Darin is internal joy...including food (when in his belly)
Listener Brandy
Completely agree with James on quad 4 or 5 when calling people
James defines the 5th “quad”
Garret and Darin, did either of you understand a single number James mentioned about espressos?
00:13:59 - The Headlines
Darin
Strategic Product Release
Release night when “OK” Thursday
Friday went terrible (errors coming from everywhere)
Firefighting mode of emergency releases
Back to stable as of this episode
“Not needless to say, I have worn this poorly”
A week of emotional turmoil and self reflection
Now questioning personal core value choices
Darin shares very real emotions around fractured relationship with James
James
“It’s ok if we fail together. It’s not ok if we fail individually.”
James recalls advice from Darin
Struggling as a leader with two big headlines
“I’ve been angry and at the effect of”
What is the right mix between delegating and holding on to things?
Real time follow up from Darin
How do you score yourselves for meetings with numbers like 9 and 6?
Tyler (cue mumbling transition)
What a week to return to
People sharing their small wins has been important during a rough week
Product Team L10™ - scored a 3.4
2 ToDo not done issues to IDS
Darin and Tyler rated the meeting as a 4 (even with IDS™ focused around “them”)
D&E™ Time
Came back from vacation...immediately picked up 6 prescriptions for the family
Garret
LT L10™ - scored 3.17
Tough IDS™ around FUD in sales
3PL Sales L10™ - scored a 3.5
Exploring should we shift this meeting away from late Monday afternoons
Retail Sales L10™ - scored a 4.2
IDS around quality of leads for calls
2 Adhoc D&E™ meetings both went great
Had the worst experience of my professional career
00:44:17 - Topic 2 (1) - Another 800 pound mammal to discuss (Order Speed Release Failure)
Where we are now
No one is using the new code we’ve written
Errors are still popping up
Question we ask is “how can we roll this back if needed?”
Never crossed our mind that can’t simply “roll” this one back
What does Darin see here?
Insufficient testing
We assumed automated test coverage was sufficient and complete
Manual testing can never be as broad a net as automated testing
Development and production environments are different
Too much of “just a Darin thing” owned in a vacuum
“I’m a careless bumbling idiot”
Real time follow up - Darin, for a guy who doesn’t get joy from buying things, you sure spend a lot of money on puppy dogs.
“Processes, processes, processes”
We have a process but we didn’t follow it
The one we have is nowhere near where it should be
Engineering doesn’t understand the power that we have and the responsibility
Question in Tyler’s head, “do we really want to change”?
Quick to blame people, things, etc…
Any trust the company had left in engineering has been completely lost
Maybe even trust in ourselves
“This is an opportunity to learn” puts James into a pure rage
“If this was 1692 in Japan and I had a samurai sword, I’d cut everyone in half”
Path forward isn’t to regain trust in engineering
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...can’t get fooled again
“Fool me 19 times you lose the company”
“Can’t do the audit, and also be the bookkeeper”
01:02:44 - Questions and Long Answers
N/A This Week
01:02:44 - End of Show
Follow @onlywaytofail on Instagram to see Tyler’s “newly” bearded face
01:08:50 - After Show - Darin’s dog has a GPS collar
Direct parallel - Doggy GPS and current release issues
Hosts, Garret Richardson, Tyler Samples, Darin Kelkhoff, and James Maes
Show Notes by Garret Richardson
Proofing and Title by Darin Kelkhoff
Editing, Mixing, and Mastering by Brenton Wainscott