In this episode of Seeing Them Live, the host interviews Jesse Rifkin, the owner of Walk on the Wild Side Tours NYC and author of 'This Must Be the Place: Music, Community, and Vanishing Spaces in New York City.' Jesse shares his journey from a touring musician to a music historian and tour guide in New York City. The discussion covers Jesse's early concert experiences, his views on the uniqueness of small music venues, and how these intimate settings differ from large arena shows. Jesse also talks about the inspiration behind his tours and book, detailing the rise and fall of various music scenes and clubs in NYC. He emphasizes the DIY nature of fostering music communities and how anyone can be a part of them. The episode is a deep dive into the cultural and historical significance of NYC's music scenes and the ever-changing landscape of its venues