This is part 2 of Foxy's chat with former presenter, producer, music guru, TV bloke and pop-quiz-question-setter.

The first part is available now, but if you're up to date, prepare to hear about how he was probably responsible for popularising some of the most annoying songs of the early 00s; how TV wasn't for him; and how he came to be part of the most listened to feature on UK radio every day.

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