Our MBC Life

S04 E17 - Psilocybin-assisted Therapy: One Patient vs the DEA


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Welcome to the third and final episode in our series on the potential of psilocybin-assisted therapy to relieve the existential distress of, and help us live as well as possible with, metastatic breast cancer. 

In this episode, we speak with two women taking action to increase legal access to psilocybin-assisted therapy in the United States. The first is a patient living with MBC who, along with her doctor, has brought a lawsuit against the Drug Enforcement Agency which is denying her access to psilocybin in the palliative care setting and under existing Right to Try laws for promising investigational medications for the terminally ill. The patient petitioner, Erinn Baldeschwiler, tells us why she joined the lawsuit, what she hopes to gain from psilocybin-assisted therapy, and what it’s been like to deal with all the legal proceedings on top of a progressing MBC diagnosis. 

Our second interview in this episode is with the attorney who is leading the legal case to open access to psilocybin under Right to Try legislation, Kathryn Tucker of the Emerge Law Group. Kathryn explains why psilocybin should be immediately available to patients suffering from distress, anxiety, and depression under FDA rules and state and federal Right to Try laws. But the DEA is continuing to block access and hold psilocybin on Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substance Act. 

It’s confusing, but we explain it all here. Lastly, see the episode notes for a current petition to the DEA to step out of the way and grant access to psilocybin to anyone with a terminal illness. 

This series has been led by our incredible series producer, Dr. Paula Jayne with expert assistance from co-host Lynda Weatherby (new to the podcast this season!), and senior producer and host Lisa Laudico. 

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