In the second episode of this two-part conversation for CAA Conversations, multidisciplinary artists Lineadeluz (Darleen Martinez) and Edgar Fabián Frías shift from institutional critique to speculative possibility, examining how digital practices can reimagine pedagogy, knowledge production, and cultural stewardship. Drawing from examples in augmented reality, AI art, queer archives, and self-instituted platforms such as Lineadeluz's Selfie Institute for Selfie Studies (SISS) and Frías’s MOMMM (Museum of Multidimensional Mutant Maps), they consider how institutions can be performed, hacked, and collectively reauthored through care-based and community-driven frameworks.

The discussion explores digital pedagogy as a slippery and relational technology that resists fixed hierarchies of legitimacy and authority, particularly within systems that continue to marginalize experimental, interdisciplinary, and Indigenous knowledge practices. Martinez and Frías reflect on speculative infrastructures as tools for redistribution, proposing models of institutional governance rooted in futurity, embodiment, and collective imagination. Together they position the institution not as a static structure, but as an evolving performance, one shaped by queer worldmaking, technological magic, and the ongoing labor of reenvisioning how knowledge is created, shared, and sustained.