We all experience pain. Even Christ experienced pain. None of us are exempt. But we don’t need to get stuck in our pain. Christ endured the cross for the joy set before him. We can see the joy in the midst of the pain. We don’t have to move from death to death. We can move from death to life as our pain produces joy and leads us to wholeness. Enjoy this conversation between me and my good friend, Rebeca Villatoro. 

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