In the premiere episode of "Clifton In Conversation," host Barry Mezher sits down with Mike Howieson, the Director of Sport, and Grant Bell, the Director of Rugby, to discuss the winter exchange program between Clifton College and St. Albans College. The exchange program offers an exciting opportunity for Clifton boys to travel to the highveld and experience a different culture while also participating in sports activities. Mike and Grant share their personal experiences and insights on the program, discussing how it has evolved over the years, the benefits it offers to students, and the unique challenges that come with traveling to a different part of the country. They also discuss the importance of fostering teamwork and explain how Clifton’s culture embraces all of its sporting codes. With plenty of interesting anecdotes and thoughtful discussion, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of sports and education.