The twelfth episode of the Meat For Teacast. We have a conversation with Tommy Twilite, a writer, songwriter and member of Florence Poets Society, and Kaliis Smith, DJ and musician with Ex-Temper, Soul Magnets and The Brass, among other bands, Talking about culture, creativity and business during Covid-19. This conversation is the third part in our series regarding arts, culture and commerce during the pandemic, and related to  the Purple Flame project. Additionally, we have Tommy Twilight reading some of his work and performing two songs, and Ex-Temper (Kaliis, Lynn Simonds, Kate Dowd and Dana Wilde) with two songs recorded at Le Cirque du Duc Blanc Mince, March, 2016. Our conversation was recorded remotely, so audio quality may suffer - so you know.