On this episode of From the Culture, Marcus Collins and Amanda Slavin sit down with Courtnee LeClaire, a transformational leader behind iconic moments at companies like Apple, to explore why she started calling herself a Chief “Becoming” Officer.

From launching products like the iPod and iPhone to navigating personal upheaval, Courtnee shares a deeply honest look at success, failure, and the myth of having it all figured out. Together, they unpack the tension between helping others and doing the inner work, the importance of trusting your instincts, and what it means to grow and learn while leading.

At the center of the conversation is Courtnee’s powerful reframing: we’re never “finished” we’re always becoming. And the real work isn’t perfection, it’s having the courage to keep going, even when you don’t know what you’re doing.