The seventeenth episode of the Meat For Teacast. Nicole Young and Kaliis Smith join Elizabeth in an excellent conversation about many things, mostly focusing on black voices and black lives in the world and our culture, ranging from the political to the artistic. Featured throughout is the excellent music of Pamela Means. You can learn more about them at the following links:

https://pamelameans.com

https://www.nicolemyoung.com

and by googling Kaliis Smith and her bands Ex-Temper, The Brass and Soul Magnets.

As has been the case with recent episodes, portions are recorded via the internet, so sound quality varies from time to time.