In this conversation, Nicole Poff and Dr. Joshua Fischer discuss the current state of higher education, emphasizing the need for change in curriculum design and the adoption of innovative teaching methods like micro learning. They explore the challenges faced by traditional educational models, the impact of technology and AI, and the importance of faculty engagement in creating meaningful learning experiences for students. The discussion highlights the necessity of adapting to the evolving educational landscape to better serve students' needs and prepare them for the future.