Matthew introduces Austin to his first papal encyclical, Humani Generis, opening up to a discussion about the ways faith and reason inform one another.

Find your hosts on other podcasts! Matthew Umbarger is on "Sacred Realms," and Austin Schwartz is on "The Floating Tavern," an actual play Dnd podcast.

Check out Austin and Matthew's original show, "Apocalypse How?"

Episode Description by Matthew Umbarger

Editing by Austin Schwartz

Music theme by Madi Laughlin