This week Dave is joined by Maff Potts, founder of the Association of Camerados. Whether it's pitching Teepees in hospitals or just putting on a cuppa, the Camerados movement is all about creating comfort, intimacy and mutual support to allow vulnerable conversations the opportunity to occur. Maff and Dave talk about difficulties in funding, land power and whether asking for "permission" to cause trouble is a smart, or necessary, way forward.