In the first episode of Hand Baggage Only, psychologist and cognitive hypnotherapist, Suzette Shahmoon, talks online to Dr. Deborah Egerton, an internationally respected best-selling author who works in inclusion, diversity and equity, and is an anti-racism consultant, and spiritual teacher.

Suzette spoke to Deborah to explore friendships across cultural division. They discussed why having people in our lives who don’t reflect our own experiences is the only way we can grow as a society.