Sometimes a book is so many things that it's hard to describe. That's Debora Harding's debut book "Dancing with the Octopus." In her memoir, Debora tells of an experience in adolescence that altered her life, the abuse she was experiencing at home, and her journey toward hope. Michael and Jill chat with Debora, and talk all things family, politics, writing, and more!

Featuring: Dancing with the Octopus

CW: abduction; emotional, physical, and sexual assault