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S.1 Ep.5 Crypto, Chaos & Clarity with Tally CEO Dennison Bertram


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In this episode of Governance Futures, Eugene and Jamilya speak with Dennison Bertram, co-founder and CEO of Tally, about the evolving role of regulation, DAOs, and decentralization.


We dig into the implications of the Clarity Act, why tooling isn't the only thing DAOs need, and how state alignment is becoming essential to scale Web3 governance.

This is a thoughtful, provocative conversation for anyone building or thinking critically about the future of crypto, compliance, and the critical role of legal frameworks in shaping the next era of web3 innovation.

Timestamps

00:00 Teaser and Introduction
03:50 Building crypto for real inclusion
06:10 Tech as a double-edged sword
08:50 Missed opportunities with NFTs & innovation
11:47 The importance of clear crypto regulation
13:15 From tools to infrastructure: evolution of Tally
15:30 DAOs as the next corporate structure
19:59 What does decentralization *really* mean?
27:24 How the Clarity Act changes the game
33:38 Why regulation and incorporation matter
38:00 The risk of operating in a legal gray zone
42:00 The new age of institution-friendly crypto
47:25 Global regulatory competition & jurisdiction shopping
54:34 State bailouts & crypto collapse responses
59:18 What DAOs still get wrong
1:01:16 Why builders really need clarity
1:06:36 Regulation isn't top-down—it's collaborative
1:10:36 Quiz: Governance in one word
1:11:37 Outro

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