Victoria Pennant sits down with Jonny as he reminisces meeting his grandmother for the first time, how to be the great pretender with Nat King Cole and bonding over DMX with his brother.

Songs feature in this episode

Here We Go Again - DMX 

Pretend - Nat King Cole 

Wish U Were Here - Jamie Foxx 

Ms Fat Booty - Mos Def 

Lately - Tyreece 

Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/59D2CzYLt6GIGj20vHa7C7

Jonny's socials 

@jonoimessam

@birdieshouseofcards