This Was Supposed to be Easy Podcast

S1 Episode 17: We Thought Leading with Joy Was Supposed to Be Easy


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In this uplifting and thoughtful episode, Amy and Cheryl welcome back Dr. Holly Hoffman (Central Michigan University) and introduce Dr. Katie Sloan (Oakland University), both professors of Early Childhood Education and Development in Michigan. Together, they share the story of how a virtual book club brought educators together across the state to explore what it truly means to lead with joy — and why it’s both more challenging and more essential than ever. From practical strategies to personal reflections, this episode invites you to think about joy not as a fleeting feeling, but as a way of being.

 

This conversation touches on:

  • How a virtual book study became a space for connection and growth
  • The difference between joy and happiness
  • Simple ways to bring more joy into teaching, leadership, and life
  • Why joy matters, especially during stressful times
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    Themes:

    • Joy as an intentional practice
    • Leading with heart and authenticity
    • Building community in professional learning
    • Finding meaning in small moments
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      Episode Highlights:

      • The origin story of their virtual book club and what made it special
      • How participants used grant funding to bring joy into their work
      • Reflections on what joy looks like in everyday leadership
      • Tips for cultivating joy that lasts beyond fleeting happiness
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        Listener’s Challenge:

        Take some time today to practice Joy Spotting – noticing small, delightful moments that surround you whether it’s something of awe or beauty, or an interaction you observed or had: What did you notice? Consider sharing that joy with us to keep the ripple going.

         

        Key Quotes:

        “Joy is just more a part of your being, and you’re infusing it into so many different things — a state of joy, an opportunity to be joyful in your heart and in your mind.” — Dr. Holly Hoffman


        “People got to shop. It was a great time. We had these book club meetings. People bought materials that supported their teaching practice, connecting with students, cultivating joy.” — Dr. Katie Sloan


        “There are so many areas of joy that might be overlooked during stressful times. We really wanted to make sure that joy was infused in their demeanor, in their content, in their classes, in their teaching supplies — all different kinds of things.” — Dr. Holly Hoffman

         

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