In this episode, I interview Ray McKinnon, a minister who has been at the Charlotte protests in recent days. He shares his story of being present at the Charlotte protests as they turned from peaceful to violent, his heart for humanizing both police officers and protestors, and what it is like for him to be an African American minister in North Carolina. It is a powerful and important episode.

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There are a couple of sound troubles in this episode, but I do hope it doesn't hinder your listening.