If you haven’t yet, listen to S11 E34 Loggerheads (Part 1)

In this episode, the dogs pick up where they left off last time (0:25). Mike clarifies when he thinks control is appropriate in a leadership position (2:50) and Rob proposes that control, when it’s properly used, can be a training in the virtues (12:53). Rob shares an “anointed moment”, which was ultimately born out of being fully prepared (15:25). Connor makes a distinction between controlling others and self-control (17:35) and Mike admits that his parents’ use of control ultimately helped him choose the “good” (20:30). Rob closes out the episode with a question: “How do you foster freedom?” (36:00).

“Leaders do have to control their people, but it’s not a manipulation of free will because those people have freely consented to being commanded by someone else.” (Mike, 3:50)

“When I walk outside, I’m taking your heart with me because we’ve built this relationship together.” (Connor on ideal relationships between parents and children, 9:00)

“Ultimately, I revere the fact that you are a free individual and are not to be controlled.” (Connor, 10:48)

“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.” (Michael Scott, 27:36)

“I put my pants on one leg at a time.” (Rob, 27:46)

“I jump into my pants.” (Mike, 27:50)

“A father provides an abundance for his children to enjoy” (Mike, 28:10)

“My son, you are here with me always; everything I have is yours.” (Luke 15:31)

“Mary will be at the cross in order to spiritually and physically offer her son to the world.” (Connor, 32:10)

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