
Sign up to save your podcasts
Or


In Part 3 of Heaven Now, we explore the deeper meaning of peace—not as the absence of conflict, but as the grounded presence that makes honesty possible. Through the story of King Saul, this episode exposes the hidden cost of leading for belonging instead of obedience, and why the fear of not fitting in quietly corrupts even the most capable leaders. True peace isn't found in the room agreeing with you or in smoothing over what's uncomfortable, but in learning to hear God's voice above the crowd's. If you've been avoiding a hard conversation, managing your reputation, or building your life around staying in the group, this conversation will challenge how you think about peace—and where it actually comes from.
WEEKLY REFLECTION:
Thank you for listening. You can support 15& by visiting fifteenand.org.
By Chris McAlisterIn Part 3 of Heaven Now, we explore the deeper meaning of peace—not as the absence of conflict, but as the grounded presence that makes honesty possible. Through the story of King Saul, this episode exposes the hidden cost of leading for belonging instead of obedience, and why the fear of not fitting in quietly corrupts even the most capable leaders. True peace isn't found in the room agreeing with you or in smoothing over what's uncomfortable, but in learning to hear God's voice above the crowd's. If you've been avoiding a hard conversation, managing your reputation, or building your life around staying in the group, this conversation will challenge how you think about peace—and where it actually comes from.
WEEKLY REFLECTION:
Thank you for listening. You can support 15& by visiting fifteenand.org.