An introduction to the Dove and Rose model which is a phenomenology of the French Royal Hearts of St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse of Lisieux. St. Thérèse is my hermeneutic for understanding St. Joan. I interpret Joan through the voice of Thérèse. Through this hermeneutic I received the grace of a “divine glance”, using Thérèsian terms, or an “unreflective certainty”, using Edith Stein’s philosophical term. The divine glance infused in me a life-long devotion to St. Joan of Arc. The Dove and Rose model tells this story and is the phenomenological expression of that devotion.

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