In this opening episode of Seen & Known, Dr. Alicia Jones talks with Abigail Garcia about the unique challenges of divorcing someone who works in ministry. They discuss the loss of community, identity, and belonging, and how many former minister’s wives are left feeling discarded and deeply lonely after divorce.

Abigail shares her redemptive story of healing and hope, including how she met her husband, Josh, and how love can be rebuilt after deep loss. This episode creates space for honesty, faith, and restoration for anyone navigating life, love, and faith after divorce.