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The canonical home for the audio edition of People AND Tech on all major podcast platforms is
https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
People AND Tech — Human Debt™. Execution Debt. Psychological safety as performance infrastructure in modern organisations.
In this first episode, Duena Blomstrom and Dave Ballantyne set the frame for the entire series: most organisations are asking the wrong question about performance.
Instead of asking “How productive are our developers?”, they explore the deeper issue — how Human Debt™ accumulates inside teams when measurement replaces trust, and how Execution Debt emerges when technical systems are optimised without understanding the human systems running them.
They unpack why productivity metrics often distort incentives, why dashboards create false clarity, and why psychological safety is not a cultural extra but a structural prerequisite for reliable delivery.
This is not an Agile conversation. It is a systems conversation.
If you are a CTO, engineering leader, founder, HR executive, or board member responsible for delivery outcomes, this episode reframes performance as organisational architecture — not individual output.
⭐ Topics Covered
• Why developer productivity is the wrong starting point
• Human Debt™ as invisible organisational strain
• Technical systems vs human systems
• Incentive distortion through metrics
• Psychological safety as performance infrastructure
• Execution Debt as emergent risk
• Flow as economic asset
• Authority vs dashboard management
⏱ Chapters
00:00 – Why this podcast exists
00:00 – The productivity trap
00:00 – Human Debt™ introduced
00:00 – Metrics and unintended consequences
00:00 – Execution Debt explained
00:00 – Psychological safety and flow
00:00 – Leadership implications
00:00 – Final reflections
🔗 Links & Resources
Full podcast series: https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
Explore Human Debt™: https://peoplenottech.com/human-debt
Authority hub: https://www.duenablomstrom.com
PeopleNOTTech: https://peoplenottech.com
👤 About the Hosts
Duena Blomstrom — systems-level futurist, author of People Before Tech and Tech-Led Culture, originator of Human Debt™, and researcher of psychological safety and execution risk in tech-led organisations
Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems thinker exploring delivery risk, DevOps practice, and performance under pressure.
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People AND Tech — Foundational episode reframing developer productivity and introducing Human Debt™ and Execution Debt as interacting organisational systems. Core themes: psychological safety, incentive distortion, flow as economic asset, systemic delivery risk. Hosts: Duena Blomstrom — originator of Human Debt™; Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems practitioner. Audience: CTOs, engineering leaders, HR executives, founders, board-level decision makers.
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By Duena Blomstrom, Dave BallantyneThe canonical home for the audio edition of People AND Tech on all major podcast platforms is
https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
People AND Tech — Human Debt™. Execution Debt. Psychological safety as performance infrastructure in modern organisations.
In this first episode, Duena Blomstrom and Dave Ballantyne set the frame for the entire series: most organisations are asking the wrong question about performance.
Instead of asking “How productive are our developers?”, they explore the deeper issue — how Human Debt™ accumulates inside teams when measurement replaces trust, and how Execution Debt emerges when technical systems are optimised without understanding the human systems running them.
They unpack why productivity metrics often distort incentives, why dashboards create false clarity, and why psychological safety is not a cultural extra but a structural prerequisite for reliable delivery.
This is not an Agile conversation. It is a systems conversation.
If you are a CTO, engineering leader, founder, HR executive, or board member responsible for delivery outcomes, this episode reframes performance as organisational architecture — not individual output.
⭐ Topics Covered
• Why developer productivity is the wrong starting point
• Human Debt™ as invisible organisational strain
• Technical systems vs human systems
• Incentive distortion through metrics
• Psychological safety as performance infrastructure
• Execution Debt as emergent risk
• Flow as economic asset
• Authority vs dashboard management
⏱ Chapters
00:00 – Why this podcast exists
00:00 – The productivity trap
00:00 – Human Debt™ introduced
00:00 – Metrics and unintended consequences
00:00 – Execution Debt explained
00:00 – Psychological safety and flow
00:00 – Leadership implications
00:00 – Final reflections
🔗 Links & Resources
Full podcast series: https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
Explore Human Debt™: https://peoplenottech.com/human-debt
Authority hub: https://www.duenablomstrom.com
PeopleNOTTech: https://peoplenottech.com
👤 About the Hosts
Duena Blomstrom — systems-level futurist, author of People Before Tech and Tech-Led Culture, originator of Human Debt™, and researcher of psychological safety and execution risk in tech-led organisations
Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems thinker exploring delivery risk, DevOps practice, and performance under pressure.
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People AND Tech — Foundational episode reframing developer productivity and introducing Human Debt™ and Execution Debt as interacting organisational systems. Core themes: psychological safety, incentive distortion, flow as economic asset, systemic delivery risk. Hosts: Duena Blomstrom — originator of Human Debt™; Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems practitioner. Audience: CTOs, engineering leaders, HR executives, founders, board-level decision makers.
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