This week, Luke Calvin is joining me for the episode to discuss church inclusion. Recently, conservative churches have struggled to process the inclusion of celibate gay Christians. As Luke beautifully says in the episode, the church is meant to be a place where "others" can find they belong. So what does and should that look like for Side B Christians.

Luke is a Licensed Professional Counselor in the state of Missouri and is the co-director of New Hope Counseling Services.  He is also a worship director, and a ruling elder in the Presbyterian Church in America.  He lives in Wentzville, MO with his wife, Jen, and 2 boys Grey and Reese. 

Music:

1. Theme Song - Driven to Success by Scott Holmes

2. Interim Music - (17:10) Come Ye Sinners by Murphy, D.X. and (35:56) Sun-Kissed by Scott Holmes 

Books Mentioned:

(50:24) Mike Mason, The Mystery of Marriage: Meditations on the Miracle. Colorado, CO: Multnomah Books, 2005.