We decided to remove the first recording and place this one up instead with all that is going on. We disagree or some of the things going on but can you guess who's on what side of things? For us a mixed couple, for Lis as a teacher at a majority Black school (over 10 years), and myself as a Black man this is important to discuss. We've both experienced situations with racism involved, separately and as a couple. I'm sorry Lis made this episode so long... I'll restrict her mic time next episode.