In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk to Karl Forehand. Karl is a former pastor, author of 2 (soon to be 3) books, and podcast host of The Desert Sanctuary Podcast. We talk about "being who you are, and being where you are," as Karl says. We also talk about focusing and shadow work. Christopher was recently a guest on Karl's podcast episode 122 called Too Many Spiritual Directors.

Christopher and Maggie are spiritual directors that like talking about spiritual things. Spiritual direction is a listening ministry that creates a sacred space for you to listen to God, see where God is at work in your life, and grow in awareness of who you were created to be. We would love to hear from you! Email Christopher and Maggie at [email protected]. 

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Karl's website: https://karlforehand.com/ 

Karl's books: https://karlforehand.com/books-by-karl-forehand 

The Desert Sanctuary podcast: https://karlforehand.com/the-desert-sanctuary 

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