Eric Tobin aka "Tobin" joins Tony to discuss his lifelong journey with the challenging condition Spina bifida while also being a VP at the long-running and very successful independent rock label -Hopeless Records. He'll talk about how he hiked to Everest Base Camp despite his physical challenges, how he found a sense of community and his path to the recording industry from attending punk rock shows as a teen, and shares his approach to managing the symptoms and perceived disadvantages of dealing with Spina bifida. We talk all that and more -including why he's optimistic about the music business during and after this pandemic. You can follow Tobin @etobinetobin, check out his roster of artists at www.hopelessrecords.com, and get involved and donate at https://www.spinabifidaassociation.org/