Julie, your favorite co-host, is a guest for this episode. She and her bandmate Andrea formed Gun-Shy Butterfly last year and have been making a ton of music since. This is their first appearance on a podcast, and we will talk about this very unique musical partnership. Plus, debut two songs, (that's right, WORLD PREMIERS) off GSB's upcoming EP.

Special thanks to Karen Schwarz who stepped in as cohost with Chris this week!