It is episode 24 of Drag Time with Heklina and we’re speaking with Leo Herrera, an activist/filmmaker, writer, and queer viral-art film artist. We discuss his prolific and timely micro essays as well as his multi-episodic, science fiction documentary The Fathers Project, which asks you to imagine a queer world if there had been no AIDS. We get deep into it about what’s at stake in the US Presidential election but also talk about what’s BEEN going on and how some must really plan for survival. Leo tells us about up-coming archival release from The Fathers Project, bringing you moving images from queer sanctums and sanctuaries throughout the USA. Find out more at iftheylived.org.