In this episode, Rich and Derrick talk to Latricia Scriven and Mike Baughman, two United Methodist pastors with much experience in using innovative ideas to set ministries up for success. They discuss issues related to declining support from the denomination as well as thoughts around staffing and leadership for 21st century ministry.

For more on Latricia and Mike and to listen to the full episode, check out collegiateministries.com.