Jeff and Mary practice empathy by discussing their thoughts on Hermione Granger’s pet peeves, her favorite reality show, and the ways her perfectionism aides and hinders her. Their friend, Elselynn, joins to share her story of perfectionism.

Empathy Practice is from Chapter 16 of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

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Hosted by Jeff San Gabriel & Mary Ogilvie

Produced by Annie Hall

Edited by Jeff San Gabriel

Music & Sound Design by Aaron Newberry

Transcript by Kimberly San Gabriel can be found on reveliopod.com

Thanks to Kimberly Bassett for coming up with the podcast name!