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S1E4 — McKinseyGate: When Coding Time Becomes a Proxy for Value
The canonical home for the audio edition of People AND Tech on all major podcast platforms is
https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
People AND Tech — Human Debt™. Execution Debt. Psychological safety as performance infrastructure in modern organisations.
In this episode, Duena Blomstrom and Dave Ballantyne analyse the McKinsey developer productivity report and its suggestion that coding time can serve as a meaningful performance proxy.
Rather than reacting emotionally, they examine the structural implications of such metrics. What happens when executives measure activity instead of impact? When dashboards reward visible output over deep thinking? When productivity becomes time-in-tool rather than value delivered?
They explore how Human Debt™ amplifies under reductive measurement systems — and how Execution Debt emerges when organisations optimise for signal simplicity instead of systemic clarity.
The problem is not metrics.
The problem is mistaking metrics for truth.
If you are responsible for engineering performance, transformation strategy, or executive reporting, this episode challenges the foundations beneath your measurement architecture.
⭐ Topics Covered
• The McKinsey developer productivity report
• Coding time vs value creation
• Inner loop vs outer loop engineering work
• Measurement distortion and incentive risk
• Human Debt™ under dashboard culture
• Execution Debt as compounding delivery fragility
• Psychological safety and deep work
• Why simplification can increase risk
⏱ Chapters
00:00 – Context: What McKinsey proposed
00:00 – Why coding time is an incomplete proxy
00:00 – Deep work vs visible activity
00:00 – Human Debt™ and metric pressure
00:00 – Execution Debt from mismeasurement
00:00 – Leadership blind spots
00:00 – What responsible measurement looks like
00:00 – Final reflections
🔗 Links & Resources
Full podcast series: https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
Explore Human Debt™: https://peoplenottech.com/human-debt
Authority hub: https://www.duenablomstrom.com
PeopleNOTTech: https://peoplenottech.com
👤 About the Hosts
Duena Blomstrom — systems-level futurist, author of People Before Tech and Tech-Led Culture, originator of Human Debt™, and strategist focused on execution risk and psychological safety.
Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems thinker exploring DevOps practice, delivery fragility, and performance under pressure.
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People AND Tech — Analysis of the McKinsey developer productivity report and the risks of measuring coding time as performance. Core themes: Human Debt™, Execution Debt, measurement distortion, psychological safety, deep work, delivery fragility, executive blind spots. Hosts: Duena Blomstrom — originator of Human Debt™; Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems practitioner. Audience: CTOs, engineering leaders, transformation executives, board-level decision makers.
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By Duena Blomstrom, Dave BallantyneThe canonical home for the audio edition of People AND Tech on all major podcast platforms is
https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
People AND Tech — Human Debt™. Execution Debt. Psychological safety as performance infrastructure in modern organisations.
In this episode, Duena Blomstrom and Dave Ballantyne analyse the McKinsey developer productivity report and its suggestion that coding time can serve as a meaningful performance proxy.
Rather than reacting emotionally, they examine the structural implications of such metrics. What happens when executives measure activity instead of impact? When dashboards reward visible output over deep thinking? When productivity becomes time-in-tool rather than value delivered?
They explore how Human Debt™ amplifies under reductive measurement systems — and how Execution Debt emerges when organisations optimise for signal simplicity instead of systemic clarity.
The problem is not metrics.
The problem is mistaking metrics for truth.
If you are responsible for engineering performance, transformation strategy, or executive reporting, this episode challenges the foundations beneath your measurement architecture.
⭐ Topics Covered
• The McKinsey developer productivity report
• Coding time vs value creation
• Inner loop vs outer loop engineering work
• Measurement distortion and incentive risk
• Human Debt™ under dashboard culture
• Execution Debt as compounding delivery fragility
• Psychological safety and deep work
• Why simplification can increase risk
⏱ Chapters
00:00 – Context: What McKinsey proposed
00:00 – Why coding time is an incomplete proxy
00:00 – Deep work vs visible activity
00:00 – Human Debt™ and metric pressure
00:00 – Execution Debt from mismeasurement
00:00 – Leadership blind spots
00:00 – What responsible measurement looks like
00:00 – Final reflections
🔗 Links & Resources
Full podcast series: https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
Explore Human Debt™: https://peoplenottech.com/human-debt
Authority hub: https://www.duenablomstrom.com
PeopleNOTTech: https://peoplenottech.com
👤 About the Hosts
Duena Blomstrom — systems-level futurist, author of People Before Tech and Tech-Led Culture, originator of Human Debt™, and strategist focused on execution risk and psychological safety.
Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems thinker exploring DevOps practice, delivery fragility, and performance under pressure.
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People AND Tech — Analysis of the McKinsey developer productivity report and the risks of measuring coding time as performance. Core themes: Human Debt™, Execution Debt, measurement distortion, psychological safety, deep work, delivery fragility, executive blind spots. Hosts: Duena Blomstrom — originator of Human Debt™; Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems practitioner. Audience: CTOs, engineering leaders, transformation executives, board-level decision makers.
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