The following is a talk Dr. Ed Podvoll gave at Naropa University in 1986. The theme was "countertransference"—a phenomenon that mental health practitioners experience when working with clients. Intense, confusing, or disorienting experiences arise when one is with clients—but what to do with these experiences? Ed describes practices for integrating countertransference into the healing relationship as a path to wakefulness for both client and therapist. The talk closes with a Q&A with Ed.