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People AND Tech — Human Debt™. Execution Debt. Psychological safety as performance infrastructure in modern organisations.

In this episode, Duena Blomstrom and Dave Ballantyne move beyond the productivity debate and formalise a structural model: how Human Debt™ and Technical Debt interact — and how their collision produces Execution Debt.

They explore why Technical Debt alone rarely explains delivery fragility, and why Human Debt™ — accumulated through leadership pressure, unclear incentives, and psychological unsafety — silently amplifies risk inside engineering systems.

Execution failure is rarely caused by a single technical decision.
 It is usually the result of compounding strain across human and technical systems.

This episode reframes “debt” as an interaction effect — not a code problem, not a culture problem, but a systems problem.

If you are responsible for delivery at scale, navigating transformation, or reporting to a board, this conversation gives you language to describe risk before it materialises as failure.

⭐ Topics Covered

• Human Debt™ as organisational strain
 • Technical Debt beyond code shortcuts
 • The interaction effect between human and technical systems
 • Execution Debt as emergent delivery risk
 • Psychological safety and decision quality
 • Leadership pressure and compounding fragility
 • Flow as a stabilising force
 • Designing organisations that reduce systemic debt

⏱ Chapters

00:00 – From productivity debate to systems model
 00:00 – Defining Human Debt™ clearly
 00:00 – Rethinking Technical Debt
 00:00 – Interaction and amplification effects
 00:00 – Execution Debt explained
 00:00 – Practical implications for leaders
 00:00 – Designing for resilience
 00:00 – Final reflections

🔗 Links & Resources

Full podcast series: https://peopleandtech.transistor.fm/
 Explore Human Debt™: https://peoplenottech.com/human-debt
Authority hub: https://www.duenablomstrom.com
PeopleNOTTech: https://peoplenottech.com

👤 About the Hosts

Duena Blomstrom — systems-level futurist, author of People Before Tech and Tech-Led Culture, originator of Human Debt™, and strategist focused on execution risk and psychological safety.

Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems thinker exploring DevOps practice, delivery fragility, and performance under pressure.

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 People AND Tech — Framework episode formalising the relationship between Human Debt™, Technical Debt, and Execution Debt. Core themes: systemic interaction effects, psychological safety, leadership pressure, delivery fragility, execution risk. Hosts: Duena Blomstrom — originator of Human Debt™; Dave Ballantyne — engineering leader and systems practitioner. Audience: CTOs, engineering leaders, founders, transformation executives, board-level decision makers.
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This one is foundational for:

• Trademark reinforcement
• Execution Debt conceptual ownership
• Board-level advisory funnel