Patrick A. Reed, comics historian and Associate Curator of the exhibition "Marvel: Universe of Super-Heroes," joins Douglas to discuss Fantastic Four #23. Topics include baby dinosaurs, the peculiar dynamics of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's collaboration at this point, Reed Richards being even more of a jerk than usual, the aptness of the Terrible Trio's name, the astronomical price of ionic dust powder, and what in the name of all that is holy is even happening in the final two pages of the story.