We talk with Rene and Matt Greff, co-founders of Arbor Brewing Company in Ann Arbor and Corner Brewery in Ypsilanti, while enjoying beers at the original Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales in Dexter, Michigan in the fall of 2018 as part of the Rising Tide project.

Matt & Rene are happily semi-retired and continue to follow their passions. Rene has become a certified personal trainer and yoga instructor and Matt continues to consult on the Arbor Brewing Company businesses in India. The Greffs reside half the year in the beautiful beachside state of Goa, India and spend the other half of the year living in a motorhome in the US visiting friends and family.