In today's episode, we have to keep our guests separated so it doesn't come to blows. The first 2 guests to ever be on our show, Mark Rider and Dave Boll join us today for a Climate Change Showdown! We also get a rare glimpse into how the creative minds of the 4 of us work. There's a Bait and Switch Podcast first as we research facts on the phone and we wrap up the show with a new, recommended ending. Any good? You decide!