It's been a mighty fall from grace for one of Canberra;'s most powerful mandarins. But if it was easy to sack Mike Pezzullo, what happens next time? This week on the Hoot with Genevieve Jacobs and David Murtagh we talk about high flyers, more senators for the ACT and whether we all need that human touch at the checkout. It's all the news you need to know with a light touch from Ngunnawal country.

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