This episode is a fairly run-of-the-mill chit chat from a random Thursday in the middle of September.

Themes include doing things for the first time, seasonal rhythms, breathing, special interests and the significance of "perspective".

We showcase Leo's new drone and Siana would like to apologise for "droning" on a bit about her cough.

Bonus SPIN-ny energy at the end 🧡💛

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