In an attempt to — once and for all — stake out the difference between butch lesbians and Elmo from Sesame Street, Rachel and Akiva discuss whether we are indeed fetishists overfocusing on a specific tactile experience. Other ingredients include:

* Akiva apologizes for doing the bad thing :’P

* Love for “masc” ambiguity/androgyny and hatred for the hard (read: unchanging, specific) butch

* “Feminist” misreads of butchfemme relationships that actually denigrate femmes and femininity and elevate masculinity (howdy, we’re feminists who believe women are individuals!)

* Why everyone wants a piece of gay stuff because it feels like freedom, until it’s specific and thus must exclude them

* “Straight men go to bachelor parties at gay bars in Texas?”

* What femmes would NOT order at the State Fair

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